Time Out for Something Spiritual: The Ego …with Surprise Special Guest
Notes: This is a transcription of a podcast that was recorded in March 2024 in which the Persian Gentleman made a surprise appearance to speak about the topic. The transcription has been slightly edited in order to put the words of the Persian Gentleman in the first person for simplicity of reading (as opposed to Michael having to keep saying, ‘And he says that…etc).
Tony: There are so many definitions of the word ‘ego’ and I wonder whether you could put some clarity on the subject.
Michael: Well, I’ve got to put my ego to one side at this very moment because we have a special ‘guest star’, as it were, this morning in that, stood next to me as we are recording this, is the guiding influence that we call the Persian Gentleman. I do believe that the Persian Gentleman would like to say something about the ego …and he says, ‘Indeed, I would!’…
The Persian Gentleman: I would like to redefine the ego for your listeners and I’d like to begin doing that by asking the question, ‘Do I have an ego?’ …Yes, of course I do! But it is not the same kind of ego that you have on Earth because your sense of ego on Earth is clouded by the incident that we call ‘the Fall’.
The ego on Earth is concerned with survival; it is concerned with: ‘I don’t have enough!’ …‘I need!’ …‘I want security!’ …‘I need love!’ …’I need propping up!’ …‘There is lack in my life!’ and all these negative aspects of the human ego have been brought about by the Fall because the ego on Earth is separated in consciousness from what it truly is – which is an expression of the God-within.
From my point of view, the ego is connected to the greater self. You have a greater self; I have a greater self; and the greater self is the sum of our experiences. Because you’ve lived many times on Earth and each time you live on Earth, you add to that ‘data bank’- you add to your individual collective experience. There is too much of you to shoehorn into a human frame and mind, and so that overspill is what we term the ‘greater self.’
The greater self is the true ego because the greater self is the consciousness that you can draw on for wisdom, for guidance, for illuminating the way forwards. It is an ego that does not harm others. It is an ego that understands its position in the universe as an equal part of God to every other ego of every other spirit.
There is a myth that, if you meditate on losing the ego, you will also lose yourself; and if you let go of the ego, you will let go of your individuality. Nothing could be further from the truth in that, if you let go of the physical ego, you discover yourself …you discover more of yourself …you find more of yourself by re-connecting to the greater self and, through the greater self, to the God that you are a part of.
There are rich rewards to be had by re-connecting to your greater self. And you re-connect your greater self by letting go of the little human ego. And in doing that you discover the greater ego that guides your way …that comforts you …that gives you the security you are looking for …that connects you to the Love you are looking for …that connects you to the guidance you are looking for …and that re-establishes, whilst you are still on Earth, a spiritual perspective that changes the way that you view your life and the way that you live your life.
Tony: Wow! I have to say to the listeners today that this is unexpected. It was going to be Michael and myself, but the Persian Gentleman has come in and stated perfectly exactly what the ego is. I would ask a question perhaps of the Persian Gentleman – through Michael – and that question is: the ego, the ‘I’, the sense of individual – can that also apply in groups? Are there group egos?
The Persian Gentleman: I, as you know, am part of a soul group and we have spoken to Michael at length about soul groups for many years now. Tony, you are quite right, in that the ego can expand in terms of what needs to be accomplished by a group of spirits outwards from the individual ego to the group ego. But no matter what you are employed in doing spiritually – whether it is as an individual or as part of a soul group – you always retain your individual ego. I have to state that at no point do you ever lose the individual ego. You are not going to be absorbed into cosmic consciousness, which is sometimes stated as a fact in spiritual literature and in certain so-called spiritual circles. That is not the case!
You are a facet of God and you have been given the opportunity to present your own perspective on the universe, on creation, on spirituality and on God. And you are connected to God always because you are part of God. But you bring back to God constantly, through your changing experiences, a unique point of view. That unique point of view is never destroyed, is never absorbed. It is communicated to the rest of Creation; it is available to the rest of Creation; but it is always your viewpoint and your individuality and soyou contribute uniquely to the universe and to Creation.
And I’d like to conclude by saying that that is something I wish to get across to everyone listening to this. You might feel diminished today; you might feel tired or world-weary or that you don’t matter today. That is completely wrong! You do matter! You are a unique perspective of the universe; you are a unique perspective of God; and you have a purpose that is equal to the purpose of every other soul and every other aspect of Creation. You are equally important and you are a vital part of the ‘jigsaw puzzle’. Without your individuality, without your contribution to Creation and to consciousness, the universe could not function and would not be the same.
Tony: Wow PG! Thank you so much for coming through here today to explain in such clarity exactly what the ego is.
The Persian Gentleman: I would say briefly that, as Michael and Tony know, there is far more information on this subject and far more information on a variety of spiritual subjects that we have brought through over the years; and that if you are interested in listening to my ego to a greater extent, then you will find that information in the Joseph Communications books, on the YouTube channel and on various other platforms where we’ve spoken in the past and will continue to do so in the future.
So, thank you for the opportunity to speak. My ego bows to you, and enjoy your true ego …examine your true ego and enhance your lives as a result of doing so.
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